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What to do with the Rumrill Q/A page? Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 12/4/99
How cool is this!!! Dino, Chapel Hill 12/3/99
Boy, have you fallen into the trap! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 12/4/99
Re: Boy, have you fallen into the trap! Wally -- 12/5/99
East Coast Boys?!?!? Dino, Chapel Hill 12/4/99
Red Wing Collector's Society Election's Wendy Callicoat/crocks701@aol.com/Seneca/MO 11/30/99
Can you tell us a little more? Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 11/30/99
red wing chuckwagon casserole (I think) mildredgabriel@msn.com 11/26/99
Re: red wing chuckwagon casserole (I think) Wally Armstrong           armst101@aol.com 11/26/99
Red Wing Balloons in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade! Dino, Chapel Hill 11/25/99
Re: Red Wing Balloons in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade! Kathleen Johnson   Eden Prairie, Minnesota 11/25/99
Re: Red Wing Balloons in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade! Dino, Chapel Hill 11/26/99
Re: Red Wing Balloons in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade! Tom/Norstar4/Prior Lake/MN 11/27/99
Wing Tips having problems on 11/24/99 Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 11/24/99
Test post Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 11/23/99
Re: Test post Wally 11/24/99
Red Wing Pottery Cookie Jar kimsperry@aol.com 11/17/99
Red wing on TV Wally Armstrong     armst101@aol.com      Monroe, WA 11/10/99
Boy With Crock was on  HGTV Charlotte A.  chardave@mindnet.org   Midland, MI 11/9/99
Re: Boy With Crock was on  HGTV Buck/pmann10079@aol.com/Plymouth/MN 11/14/99
We're Up and Running! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 11/3/99
Midwinter 2000 Info Available Dino, Chapel Hill 02 Nov 1999
Hague's 1st Birthday! Byron / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / Tulsa / OK 28 Oct 1999
Old Frontenac Methodist Campus Candleholder Gale Morganroth (gmorganroth@snet.net) 27 Oct 1999
Seen the Index Preview? Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 20 Oct 1999
Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 20 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? David Lenling redwinger65@hotmail.com Piror Lake, MN 26 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Charlotte A  chardave@mindnet.org    Midland MI 23 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Rusty rlm956@aol.com 22 Oct 1999
I have a poor memory Rusty! Byron / byronbush@redwingnet.com / el paso / tx 24 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Wally Armstrong       armst101@aol.com 22 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Tom Dvorscek/Norstar4/Prior Lake/MN 21 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Wally Armstrong       armst101@aol.com 20 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Dino, Chapel Hill 20 Oct 1999
Re: Should Wing Tips get into Ohio Rumrill? Kathleen Johnson   Eden Prairie, Minnesota 20 Oct 1999
So What’s the Conclusion? byron / byronbush@redwingnet.com / El Paso / TX 13 Oct 1999
Does the Goodhue Museum have RWCS Newsletters? Terry Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 12 Oct 1999
Straight from the U.S. Gov. Copyright web site Byron / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 12 Oct 1999
Re: Straight from the U.S. Gov. Copyright web site Terry Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 15 Oct 1999
Re: Straight from the U.S. Gov. Copyright web site Wally Armstrong 15 Oct 1999
Round Up One Tier Tidbid Server kristin7@mwci.net 12 Oct 1999
Formulating my response to the BOD Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 08 Oct 1999
Index of RWCS Newsletters Byron 08 Oct 1999
My questions to the BOD; where they answered? Byron 08 Oct 1999
Merits of the project Byron 08 Oct 1999
Is the Index worthwhile without the Articles? Byron 08 Oct 1999
Re: Is the Index worthwhile without the Articles? Terry Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 12 Oct 1999
What’s it take to do create and publish the Index? Byron 08 Oct 1999
In violation of Copyright law? Byron 08 Oct 1999
What about maintenance? Byron 08 Oct 1999
Where should the Index reside? Byron 08 Oct 1999
Ideally Byron 08 Oct 1999
Republication of RWCS Newsletters Byron 08 Oct 1999
Merits of the project Byron 08 Oct 1999
What’s it take to republish the articles? Byron 08 Oct 1999
In violation of Copyright law? Byron 08 Oct 1999
What about maintenance? Byron 08 Oct 1999
Where should the articles reside? Byron 08 Oct 1999
Ideally Byron 08 Oct 1999
Response From the BOD Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 07 Oct 1999
Re: Response From the BOD dave@wtc.k12.mn.us 07 Oct 1999
Re: Response From the BOD Larry Roschen/redwinglr@aol.com/Coon Rapids MN 08 Oct 1999
Original Letter to the BOD Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 07 Oct 1999
Re: Original Letter to the BOD Kathleen Jonnson  Eden Prairie, Minnesota 07 Oct 1999
Like Father, Like Son creedinwdm@aol.com 06 Oct 1999
roundup water cooler - 2 gals Marsha/memmoss@yahoo.com/Texas 05 Oct 1999
Re: roundup water cooler - 2 gals Wally Armstrong      armst101@aol.com 05 Oct 1999
Like Father, Like Son Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 05 Oct 1999
Re: Like Father, Like Son Karen larkar@tdn.com  Kelso, WA 07 Oct 1999
Re: Like Father, Like Son Dino, Chapel Hill 05 Oct 1999
Re: Like Father, Like Son Wally Armstrong 05 Oct 1999
Re: Like Father, Like Son Kathleen Johnson Eden Prairie, Minnesota 05 Oct 1999
I'm off to Red Wing Wally Armstrong       armst101@aol.com 30 Sep 1999
Please call El Paso when you get home! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 03 Oct 1999
ca marche ? Porcel flofa88@hotmail.com 28 Sep 1999
ca marche ? Porcel flofa88@hotmail.com 28 Sep 1999
ca marche ? Porcel flofa88@hotmail.com Brantford Ontario 28 Sep 1999
ca marche ? Porcel flofa88@hotmail.com Brantford Ontario 28 Sep 1999
ca marche ? Porcel flofa88@hotmail.com Brantford Ontario 28 Sep 1999
Re: ca marche ? Porcel flofa88@hotmail.com 28 Sep 1999
Charles Murphy Wildlife Print (Ducks) rheselton@juno.com 26 Sep 1999
Your post is inappropriate! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 26 Sep 1999
   
fondoso again       jen/jkeding@dellnet.com/Fridley/MN 23 Sep 1999
fondoso again       jen/jkeding@dellnet.com/Fridley/MN 23 Sep 1999
Charles E Murphy Wildlife Print       rheselton@juno.com 22 Sep 1999
Re: Charles E Murphy Wildlife Print           Wally Armstrong       armst101@aol.com 22 Sep 1999
 
Re: Cemar cermanics/pottery twila bennett/twila@qnet.com/palmdale/ca 31 Oct 1999
Re: Prices for Sleepy Eye Steins ken witty/krwit@webaccess.net/ft. collins/colorado 1/14/00
Re: Prices for Sleepy Eye Steins Ritch Larsen/arlarsen@mtco.com/Chillicothe/IL 11/12/99
Re: Dutch Auction GKR / krish@mailcity.com / LasVegas / NY 11/17/99
Re: Cemar cermanics/pottery dmatherne@prairienet.com 12/6/99
Re: Anyone care to talk to me over the web on MS Net Meeting? moonboy47@hotmail.com 12/20/99
Re: How to Repair Crack in Crock? Tracy Anderson   GTanderso@cs.com  Waverly, Nebraska 1/12/00
fondoso       jen/jkeding@dellnet.com/fridley/mn 21 Sep 1999
Re: fondoso Wally Armstrong                  armst101@aol.com 22 Sep 1999
Re: fondoso Terry               Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 22 Sep 1999
fondoso jen/jkeding/fridley/mn 21       Sep 1999
fondoso jen/jkeding/fridley/mn 21       Sep 1999
Newsletter Index Coming Right Along!       Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 21 Sep 1999
Heard from the RWCS President Byron           Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 22 Sep 1999
Re: Newsletter Index Coming Right Along!           dave@wtc.k12.mn.us 21 Sep 1999
Home Blampani@aol.com 19 Sep 1999
Re: Home Kathleen Johnson Eden           Prairie, Minnesota 20 Sep 1999
Re: Home Wally Armstrong                   armst101@aol.com 20 Sep 1999
Dino is on line again Wally       Armstrong 17 Sep 1999
Register on Ebay Bill       Chapline/BillChapline@msn.com/Columbus/Ohio 16 Sep 1999
At times like this... Byron Bush /           ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 18 Sep 1999
Floyd Update #1, Wednesday 8:00AM       Dino, Chapel Hill 15 Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #7, Thursday 7:30AM  THE           AFTERMATH Dino, Chapel Hill 16 Sep 1999
Glad to hear everything is OK Byron               Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 16 Sep 1999
Re: Glad to hear everything is OK                   Dino, Chapel Hill 16 Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #6, Wednesday 7:40PM           Dino, Chapel Hill 15 Sep 1999
I'm with you Dino! Byron Bush /               ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 15 Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #5, Wednesday 5:30PM           Dino, Chapel Hill 15 Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #4, Wednesday 4:30PM           Dino, Chapel Hill 15 Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #3, Wednesday 12:30PM           Dino, Chapel Hill 15 Sep 1999
So where's Pam? Byron Bush /               ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 15 Sep 1999
Re: So where's Pam? Pamela Fire 15                   Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #1, Wednesday 8:00AM           Kathleen Johnson 15 Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #1, Wednesday 8:00AM               Dino, Chapel Hill 15 Sep 1999
Re: Floyd Update #2, Wednesday 11:00AM           Dino, Chapel Hill 15 Sep 1999
Thanks Dino! Byron Bush /           ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 15 Sep 1999
This is not good... Dino, from       "Floyd," North Carolina 14 Sep 1999
Our thoughts are with you Dino!           Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 14 Sep 1999
Letter to RWCS BOD, Dave Newkirk about       Newsletter Index Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 14 Sep      1999
Red Wing #6 Crock       ybowe@glcmhddsa.org 13 Sep 1999
hamm's pop corn set       djpfaff@prodigy.net 12 Sep 1999
Social Security Web Site / PEBES Report       Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 11 Sep 1999
Charles Murphy       Nancy/rgdmtn@aol.com/Somerset/CO 11 Sep 1999
Re: Charles Murphy Wally Armstrong                   armst101@aol.com 11 Sep 1999
Heard of first Y2K problems yesterday       Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 10 Sep 1999
Re: Heard of first Y2K problems yesterday           Wally Armstrong 10 Sep 1999
Red Wing Swedish House Dinnerware       jomello@innercite.com  Placerville, CA 08 Sep 1999
Re: Red Wing Swedish House Dinnerware           Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 08 Sep 1999
Re: Red Wing Swedish House Dinnerware           Larry Roschen/redwinglr@aol.com/Coon Rapids, MN 08 Sep 1999
Re: Red Wing Swedish House Dinnerware               jomello@innercite.com  Placerville, CA 10 Sep 1999
Listen to Larry! Byron Bush /               ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 08 Sep 1999
Red Wing Swedish House Dinnerware       jomello@innercite.com  Placerville, CA 08 Sep 1999
Random Harvest Dinnerware Pieces       Daryl Rachey / drachey@antioch.com/ Avon / MN 07 Sep 1999
Re: Random Harvest Dinnerware Pieces           Wally Armstrong 07 Sep 1999
Beigh Watch Terry       Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 03 Sep 1999
Your Wish Is My... Byron Bush /           ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 03 Sep 1999
Re: Your Wish Is My... Terry               Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 07 Sep 1999
Re: Your Wish Is My... Charlotte A                   chardave@mindnet.org                          Midland MI 04 Sep 1999
Great to hear from you Charolette!                   Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 05 Sep 1999
Wing Tips RWCS Newsletter Index Project, Need       Your Opinion… Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 01 Sep      1999
Can't spell but found a helpful web site on           "Copyright Law"... Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso /           TX 02 Sep 1999
For information on "Copyright Law",               go to the source Gary Tefft  locustent@aol.com 02 Sep 1999
Newsletter ownership Larry               Roschen/redwinglr@aol.com/Coon Rapids, MN 02 Sep 1999
A question for you "Legal" types out           there... Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 02 Sep 1999
Re: A question for you "Legal" types               out there... Wally 02 Sep 1999
Re: Wing Tips RWCS Newsletter Index Project,           Need Your Opinion… Wally Armstrong   armst101@aol.com 01 Sep           1999
Not trying to ruffle feathers...               Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 01 Sep 1999
Re: Not trying to ruffle feathers...                   Wally  Armstrong       armst101@aol.com 02 Sep 1999
Newsletter Index Larry                       Roschen/redwinglr@aol.com/Coon Rapids MN 02 Sep 1999
Thanks Larry, More on that... Byron                         Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 02 Sep 1999
Re: Thanks Larry, More on that... Larry                         Roschen 02 Sep 1999
Pompeii Commemorative Karen       /Cow22Girl@aol.com/McHenry,IL 19 Aug 1999
Re: Pompeii Commemorative Kathleen           Johnson  Eden Prairie, Minnesota 20 Aug 1999
Fireside Survey Dino, Chapel Hill       18 Aug 1999
Schuett address Char A          chardave@mindnet.org 16 Aug 1999
Re: Schuett address Wally Armstrong           17 Aug 1999
Re: Schuett address Char A                   chardave@mindnet.org                         Midland MI 18 Aug 1999
Re: Schuett address Wally Armstrong                          armst101@aol.com 19 Aug 1999
village green Belinda       Gilbert/emily@sierranet.net/Oakhurst/CA 13 Aug 1999
Belinda, use the Brochures in the Wing Tips           Quick Viewer! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 13 Aug 1999
Re: village green           Julie/seagll20@aol.com/Minnesota 13 Aug 1999
Sometimes it works the way it’s supposed       to, Another Convert! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 11      Aug 1999
Re: Sometimes it works the way it’s           supposed to, Another Convert! Kathleen Johnson    Eden Prairie,           Minnesota 12 Aug 1999
Repair Cracks       Anne/aksomaha@aol.com/Omaha/NE 09 Aug 1999
Re: Repair Cracks Wally Armstrong                 armst101@aol.com 09 Aug 1999
Display Awards       Johnscredriv@worldnet.att.net 08 Aug 1999
Re: Display Awards Kathleen Johnson               Eden Prairie, Minnesota 11 Aug 1999
Re: Display Awards Wally Armstrong                 armst101@aol.com     Monroe, WA 08 Aug           1999
Those Starry Eyed Newsletter Editors       Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 08 Aug 1999
Re: Those Starry Eyed Newsletter Editors           Wally Armstrong   armst101@aol.com       Monroe,           WA. 08 Aug 1999
Site Map at Red Wing Collectors.org       Wally Armstrong Monroe, WA   armst101@aol.com 06 Aug 1999
Condition Assessment Terry       Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 05 Aug 1999
OK, what's next? Byron Bush /           ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 08 Aug 1999
Re: Condition Assessment Dino,           Chapel Hill 06 Aug 1999
Re: Condition Assessment Wally           Armstrong       armst101@aol.com 05 Aug 1999
Re: Condition Assessment Tom               Dvorscek/Norstar4/Prior Lake, MN 07 Aug 1999
Re: Condition Assessment Terry               Moe/moeterry@norand.com/Marion/IA 06 Aug 1999
Thanks Terry Byron Bush /           ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 05 Aug 1999
How to Repair Crack in Crock?       morourke@santel.net 02 Aug 1999
Re: How to Repair Crack in Crock?           Melissa O'Rourke/morourke@santel.net/Woonsocket/SD 05 Aug 1999
Maybe we can transform it into something           that's not broken! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 03 Aug           1999
Re: How to Repair Crack in Crock?           Wally Armstrong, Monroe, WA 03 Aug 1999
Stoneware Shawn72424@aol.com 02 Aug       1999
Thoughts about the RWCS “Press Pass”       Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 31 Jul 1999
The RWCS has done something TRULY good for the       organization! Byron Bush / ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 30 Jul 1999
Auction Results Dino, Chapel Hill       29 Jul 1999
grandma's casserole       mli8920279@aol.com 28 Jul 1999
Re: grandma's casserole Bruce/CO 28           Jul 1999
What if I were to... Byron Bush /       ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 26 Jul 1999
Byron's Back Wayne Johnson Eden       Prairie Minnesota 25 Jul 1999
Thank you Kathleen Byron Bush /           ByronBush@RedWingNet.com / El Paso / TX 26 Jul 1999
Wing Jug       Diane/dmitch804@aol.com/Canton/Ohio 24 Jul 1999
Board Meeting and Annual Meeting Minutes       Kathleen Johnson   Eden Prairie, Minnesota 16 Jul 1999
Honey I'm Home  - Wally       Armstrong         armst101@aol.com 14 Jul 1999
No Lines Indeed Julie       Deitering/SEAGLL20@aol.com/Minnesota 12 Jul 1999
Re: No Lines Indeed Kathleen           Johnson  Eden Prairie, Minnesota 13 Jul 1999
The Convention,  My Veiw       Kathleen Johnson  Eden Prairie, Minnestoa 11 Jul 1999
Re: The Convention,  My Veiw           Tom Dvorscek/Norstar4/Prior Lake, MN 13 Jul 1999
Re: The Convention,  My Veiw           Sue Jones Tagliapietra/jeffsue@chorus.net 11 Jul 1999
Re: The Convention,  My View               Larry Roschen/redwinglr@aol.com/Coon Rapids MN 13 Jul 1999
RE: Redwing sewer pipe co David       Lenling Redwinger65@hotmail.com Prior Lake, MN 07 Jul 1999
Redwing Sewer pipe Co kathy,       kscott8206@aol.com, Port Charlotte/Florida 06 Jul 1999
Red Wing Convention. Wally       Armstrong 05 Jul 1999
redwingcollectors.org site upgrade       Dino, Chapel Hill 28 Jun 1999
SIGs and Educational Seminars Dino,       Chapel Hill 24 Jun 1999
Attention Red Wingers East Of The Mississippi       Kathleen Johnson    Eden Prairie, Minnesota 24 Jun 1999
Off to Red Wing Wally Armstrong              armst101@aol.com             Monroe, WA 22 Jun 1999
Wing Watercooler on Famous Dave's Packageing       David Lenling redwinger65@hotmail.com Prior Lake,MN 21 Jun 1999
I need help on Red Wing Art Pottery Two       Ray Reiss rayreiss@earthlink.net Chicago/IL 19 Jun 1999
Puget Sound Red Wing Society       Charlene/JAMIRV@JUNO.COM/Springfield, OR 15 Jun 1999
Re: Puget Sound Red Wing Society           Wally Armstrong       armst101@aol.com               Monroe, WA 16 Jun 1999
5/6 lid for churn (top measures 9 inches       across) jon zandi,  zandi@dcim.com,  milwaukee, wi 15 Jun 1999
Re: 5/6 lid for churn (top measures 9 inches           across) Tom Dvorscek/Norstar4/Prior Lake/MN 19 Jun 1999
Re: 5/6 lid for churn (top measures 9 inches           across) Kathleen Johnson   Eden Prairie, Minnesota 15 Jun 1999
5/6 lid for churn (top measures 9 inches       across) jon zandi,  zandi@dcim.com,  milwaukee, wi 15 Jun 1999
CORRECTION, Wally Armstrong            armst101@aol.com      Monroe, WA 13 Jun       1999
Re: CORRECTION, Bruce/CO 17 Jun           1999
Lake City auction Paul Kosmatka         stcloud@earthlink.net  St. Cloud, MN 13 Jun 1999
Re: Lake City auction           RBecker/lakecity@mr.net/Lake City/MN 16 Jun 1999
Re: Lake City auction               RBecker/lakecity@mr.net/Lake City/MN 17 Jun 1999
The Biggest Crock Of All Bruce/CO       12 Jun 1999
Michigan Chapter of RWCS Charlotte       A    chardave@mindnet.org    Midland/MI 11 Jun 1999
Re: Michigan Chapter of RWCS Wally           Armstrong        armst101@aol.com 12 Jun 1999
Respose To By-Laws Changes Kathleen       Johnson  Eden Prairie, Minnesota 08 Jun 1999
Re: Respose To By-Laws Changes John           Key - Red Wing, MN 09 Jun 1999
Re: Respose To By-Laws Changes               Kathleen Johnson Eden Prairie, Minnesota 09 Jun 1999
Re: Respose To By-Laws Changes               Wally Armstrong    armst101@aol.com 09 Jun 1999
Sponge ware Umbrella Stands     Lawren2088@aol.com 05 Jun 1999

Re: Sponge ware Umbrella Stands         Bruce/CO 06 Jun 1999

Convention Volunteers Kim and John     Key/rwcsmem@win.bright.net/Red Wing,MN 02 Jun 1999

Re: A Red Wing Collectors Society Members Impressions of The Conv... KENOTOMD@AOL.COM 17 Jul 1999
Re: handles Don Bacon/jbard@gvtc.com/New Braunfels, Tx 19 Jul 1999
Re: Who owns Red Wing name and designs? paper@nwi.net 26 Aug 1999